Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 15 December 2009 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) ROLL CALL Adam Tambone * Anders Ekholm, Ericsson Barry Katz, SiSoft Benny Lazer Benjamin P Silva Bob Cox, Micron * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brian Arsenault David Banas, Xilinx * Eckhard Lenski, Nokia Siemens Networks Eric Brock Guan Tao, Huawei Technologies Gregory R Edlund Hazem Hegazy Huang Chunxing, Huawei Technologies John Figueroa John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Katja Koller, Nokia Siemens Networks Kevin Fisher Kim Helliwell, LSI Logic * Lance Wang, IOMethodology Lijun, Huawei Lynne Green, Green Streak Programs * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Mayer, SiSoft * Moshiul Haque, Micron Technology Muniswarareddy Vorugu, ARM Ltd Pavani Jella, TI Peter LaFlamme Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Radovan Vuletic, Qimonda Robert Haller, Enterasys Roy Leventhal, Leventhal Design & Communications Sherif Hammad, Mentor Graphics Tim Coyle, Signal Consulting Group Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Tom Dagostino, Teraspeed Consulting Group Kazuyoshi Shoji, Hitachi Sadahiro Nonoyama Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for opens and patent disclosures: - No one declared a patent. - Bob: Pavani may be returning from leave soon - Mike: We should skip Dec 29 but meet on Dec 22 - We can meet Jan 5 AR Review: - Moshiul rework IQ checklist for IQ 2.0 - Started work but was pulled away New items: Mike showed the Accuracy Handbook: - Bob: This is a good document - A good supplement to the cookbook - The question again is "How to designate levels?" - We can do better correlation - We can't tell vendors what to do - Section header level review - 1.1 to 1.4 are OK - 2.1 - Anders: Do we want to address accuracy or correlation? - Bob: They are intertwined - Mike: That is a section 3 discussion - Mike: Probably want to add to 2.1 - 2.1.3 differential drivers - Bob: - 2.1.1 Simple CMOS drivers - 2.1.2 Differential - 2.1.3 De-emphasis modes - Mike: Some of this is about making models - Maybe it could move to the cookbook - then add correlation here - Bob: We don't want to have 3 projects at once - Mike: Is 2.2 needed? - Bob: This was all of IBIS when the Accuracy Handbook was written - Mike: There may not be many more keywords to add - The Accuracy Handbook is all about drivers - [Receiver Thresholds] would not apply - Bob: We would add [Diff Pin] and [Driver Schedule] - Moshiul: [Submodel] too - Mike: I could create a skeleton header - Also someone could update Table 1 - 3 - Mike: This could go in the cookbook - Bob: Not to be belabored or expanded - 3.2: Measurement Techniques - Mike: It covers the 3 things we measure - 3.24: Add BIRD95 keywords - Bob: The currents at ground terminals - Mike: The scope should clarify that this is not AMI - Bob: It's not about the package either - Mike: Could this be about packages? - Bob: Yes - That is a separate discussion, with field solvers, etc. - Mike: The title is "I/O Buffer Accuracy Handbook" - 3.3 IV Curves - Mike: Section 3.3.1 is just circuit pictures - The 2 circuits in 3.3.1 look almost alike - Maybe we don't need these - Bob: Maybe we could pull back on this - 3.4 Test Load Waveforms - Mike: Is this section about correlation? - Anders: Yes but it doesn't say how - Mike: This should be in [Test Load] language - Anders: That may be more helpful for simulation correlation - 3.5 Capacitance - Mike: There are at least 4 ways to measure capacitance - Bob: This shows the TDR method - Mike: This could have a more complete discussion - Anders: It is not clear if 3.4 and 3.5 are for extraction or correlation - Mike: 3.2 is "Measurement Techniques" - It could be for either - 3.4.1 and 3.4.2 are for extraction - 3.4.3 on are for correlation Meeting ended at 12:08 PM Eastern Time.